Deconstructing a False-Flag OperationMain POST.911.DRILLS 7/7.DRILLS .
90% of U.S. troops think war is retaliation for Saddam’s role in 9/11
Zogby International
Released: February 28, 2006
U.S. Troops in Iraq: 72% Say End War in 2006
• Le Moyne College/Zogby Poll shows just one in five troops want to heed Bush call to stay “as long as they are needed”
• While 58% say mission is clear, 42% say U.S. role is hazy
• Plurality believes Iraqi insurgents are mostly homegrown
• Almost 90% think war is retaliation for Saddam’s role in 9/11, most don’t blame Iraqi public for insurgent attacks
• Majority of troops oppose use of harsh prisoner interrogation
• Plurality of troops pleased with their armor and equipment
An overwhelming majority of 72% of American troops serving in Iraq think the U.S. should exit the country within the next year, and nearly one in four say the troops should leave immediately, a new Le Moyne College/Zogby International survey shows.
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posted by culhavoc ON 02.28.06 @ 7:27 pm | 0 Comments
WTC Survivor: Scott Forbes ‘Deadline Live’ Interview [UPDATE]
Feb 27th, 2006
A summary of today’s Scott Forbes interview on Deadline Live…
(download the full interview here)
Scott Forbes is a Senior Database Administrator for Fiduciary Trust and used to work in the South Tower of the WTC.
1st hour:
Topics:
• Loss of power being extrordinary
• Dates of power down, 3 weeks notice, recabling networks
• Forbes’ first hand account of both “collapses” appeared to be a controlled demolition
• Security
• “Maintenance workers”
• Forbes’ testimony was dismissed by the 9/11 Commission and the NY Port Authority
• Power-down from the 48th-50th floor up
• Toolboxes, spools of cable
• Recent Sears Tower power-down
• Personal loss
• Forbes switched shifts with a coworker
• WTC1 impact
• WTC PA, what occupants were told
2nd hour:
A. K. Dewdney of physics911.net, joins Jack and Scott Forbes.
Topics:
• 9/11 commission
• Forbes’ take on 9/11 science
• Thermite charges on WTC 1 & 2 to allow a “like butter” entry
• Forbes first hand account of UA175 impacting WTC2
• Employees in the building to shut systems down. employees vacated. all new faces.
• 98th floor “construction”
• WTC occupancy; Forbes states that WTC was understaffed on 9/11
• Scott Forbes parts, A. K. Dewdney stays on with Jack
• Consolidation of media
• st9/11
• Pilot capabilities, RC planes
• “Operation Pearl“; radar swaps/remote control… (note: no mention of Frank Levi’s “Holes in the Radar“)
• DNA evidence and the simplicity of tampering
• Wrap up
also see: Scott Forbes interviews with Killtown and georgewashington.blogspot.com
posted by culhavoc ON @ 12:19 am | 0 Comments
MI5 rebels expose Tube bomb cover-up
The Sunday Times
February 26, 2006
by David Leppard
MI5 is facing an internal revolt by officers alarmed about intelligence failures and the lack of resources to fight Islamic terrorism.
To illustrate their concern, agents have leaked more topsecret documents to The Sunday Times because they want a public inquiry into the “missed intelligence” leading up to the July attacks in London.
They believe ministers have withheld information from the public about what the security services knew about the suspects before the bombing of July 7 and the abortive attacks of July 21.
The documents include an admission by John Scarlett, head of SIS, the secret intelligence service (also known as MI6), that one of the July 21 suspects was tracked on a trip to Pakistan just months before the attempted bombings.
Until now it was not known that any of the July 21 suspects, who are awaiting trial, were familiar to the intelligence services. It has been disclosed that MI5 had placed two of the July 7 bombers under surveillance before their attack, but judged them not to be a threat.
The new documents show that MI5, which is responsible for national security, allowed the July 21 suspect to travel to Pakistan after he was detained and interviewed at a British airport. Once in Pakistan he was monitored by SIS, which gathers intelligence overseas.
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posted by culhavoc ON 02.27.06 @ 6:09 pm | 0 Comments
Latest Documentary: September 11 Revisited
Directed by Dustin Mugford, “September 11 Revisted” is the latest in a recent flood of documentaries on the subject of 9/11.
View it online or order the free DVD, shipping not incl.
It can also be downloaded from archive.org.
Essentially, this is a video montage of mainstream media coverage from 9/11 with focus on explosions occurring at the WTC. Also included are several clips from 9/11 truth lectures and documentaries.
posted by culhavoc ON 02.26.06 @ 9:10 pm | 0 Comments
ST9/11’s James Fetzer, David Ray Griffin, Morgan Reynolds on “Coast to Coast AM”
Feb 23rd, 2006. 12:00am - 4:00am: James Fetzer, David Ray Griffin, and Morgan Reynolds will be interviewed by George Noory.
“Expert on conspiracy theories, James Fetzer, will review recent hypotheses of what really happened on 9-11, based on physical evidence. He’ll be joined by David Ray Griffin, author of The New Pearl Harbor in the second hour, and Morgan Reynolds, former chief economist for the Labor Dept., in the third hour.” (archived program)
Recap
9-11 Theories & Evidence
“The 9-11 attacks were an “inside job” orchestrated by factions within the United States, according to three guests who shared their theories and evidence. Prof. James Fetzer, an expert on the JFK assassination and one of the founding members of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, cited numerous factors which he believes indicate the government’s official explanation is riddled with falsities. In the case of the WTC towers, the melting point of steel and the quick rate of the buildings’ collapse could only be explained by a planned demolition, he said, adding that were security anomalies reported at the WTC in the two weeks leading up to the attack. Fetzer also noted that in the Pentagon attack, the size of the impact in the building was too small for an airliner, and may have instead have been an A-3 Skywarrior.
Fetzer also contended that the terrorists would have been incapable of piloting the planes into these precise targets, and that “neocons,” such as those who were involved in the Project for the New American Century were the instigators of the 9-11 events.
Appearing with Fetzer in the second hour was David Ray Griffin, the author of The New Pearl Harbor who concurred that the official story behind the WTC and Pentagon attacks doesn’t jibe with the physics and chemistry of the evidence. Joining Fetzer in the third hour, was Morgan Reynolds, former chief economist for the Labor Dept., who argued that al Qaeda had been set up as “patsies” in the style of Lee Harvey Oswald.”
(source: coasttocoastam.com / archived program)
more interviews with James Fetzer
posted by culhavoc ON 02.24.06 @ 2:29 am | 0 Comments
Tracking the Alleged Hijackers and their Doubles
John Doe II of Team8plus has posted “Tracking the alleged hijackers and their doubles“, which consists of timelines and extensive dossiers on each of the alleged highjackers and their doppelgangers.
(source: Team8plus.org forums)
posted by culhavoc ON 02.23.06 @ 11:36 pm | 0 Comments
David Ray Griffin on Air America
Feb 22nd, 2006
Air America Radio’s Mike Malloy interviews Professor David Ray Griffin,
author of The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions And Distortions.
Professor Griffin is a full member of Scholars for 9/11 Truth.
(commercial free archived mp3 / Mike Malloy 9/11 forum)
posted by culhavoc ON @ 6:08 am | 0 Comments
WTC Survivor: Scott Forbes ‘Deadline Live’ Interview
Scott will be interviewed on Jack Blood’s Deadline Live next Monday, Feb 27th, 2006: 2pm-4pm CST
WTC Survivor details suspicious “power outage” in WTC towers before 911
Scott Forbes is a Senior Database Administrator for Fiduciary Trust and used to work in the South Tower of the WTC.
“Because of a “power down” notified by the Port Authority. Power was being switched off for a 36hr period in the top half of tower and as I work for a Financial Institution and Bank in the Technology Group I was working on the shutdown and eventually the startup of all our systems. There were several guys in overalls, carrying building gear, toolboxes, etc inside the building. Remember there were no security locks on doors or security cameras, so access was free unless a door was locked by a manual key. Seeing so many ’strangers’ who didn’t work at the WTC was unusual. They would all need to have stick-on badges, with their photo and name. I can’t remember seeing those badges or not. Also…I am aware of one member of staff who was lost whose wife reported that he told her on the phone that explosions were going off. I’ve sent emails and letters to the 9/11 commission and the Port Authority of NY/NJ, without response, and I’ve emailed, IM’d and spoken to several independent authors and broadcaster. No mainstream media outlets.”
(source: Scott Forbes interview with Killtown)
(also interviewed by georgewashington.blogspot.com)
(GCN Live streams)
see update
posted by culhavoc ON 02.22.06 @ 7:07 pm | 0 Comments
Village Voice: The Seekers
The birth and life of the ‘9-11 Truth movement’
by Jarrett Murphy
February 21st, 2006 11:48 AM
Essentially, it’s all about physics and common sense. Cut steel, and buildings fall. Crash a plane, and the Earth gets scarred. Fire a missile; see a hole. What’s up must come down, cause makes effect, and for the truth to set you free, it must be freed itself.
It’s dark in the basement of St. Mark’s Church and dark outside on a mid-December Sunday night, but inside they have seen the light. Among the 100 or so people in the room, many wear buttons that read “9/11 Was An Inside Job.” Others grip the vital texts in their hands—Crossing the Rubicon, The New Pearl Harbor, or 9/11 Synthetic Terror. Most in the largely (but not exclusively) white and male crowd can quote you the important passages from “Rebuilding America’s Defenses” or The 9/11 Commission Report. A few can guide you through the details of concepts like “peak oil” and pyroclastic flow. All of them suspect—and a few simply know—that their government was somehow complicit in the attacks that killed nearly 3,000 Americans four Septembers ago.
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Blogger 9/11 Levels
Culhavoc
Feb 20th, 2006
What follows is a set of graphs which illustrate the use of several 9/11 keywords and phrases on blogs. In this case I used Technorati, which claims to track 28.3 million sites and 2 billion links.
• Posts that contain 9/11 per day for the last 365 days.
Get your own chart!
• Posts that contain "9/11 Truth" per day for the last 365 days.
Get your own chart!
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posted by culhavoc ON 02.21.06 @ 3:36 am | 0 Comments
What the Hell Happened to MAXIM’s Charles Coxe?
Culhavoc
Feb 18th, 2006
Since MAXIM Magazine’s March 2006 issue hit the shelves, there has been a lot of debate over whether or not their feature story entitled “What Really Brought Down The Towers?” was positive exposure for the 9/11 truth movement.
Some argue that the movement suffered setbacks, due to the fact that the article addressed several marginal “theories”. Others say this is positive, since it brings more exposure to the movement.
While I personally agree with both sides, one of the questions we should be asking is:
What is MAXIM’s motive for publishing this article?
On August 24th, 2004 MAXIM’s senior editor Charles Coxe appeared on the Frank Whalen show on the RBN Network.
“Charles Coxe, is an executive editor for Maxim Magazine, www.maximonline.com Charles will take phone calls regarding suggestions for a forthcoming article on conspiracy FACTS.”
(Source: RBNlive.com archives)
I’ve been unable to locate any reference to the MAXIM “Conspiracy Facts” article mentioned in the above quote.
(Source: Google / Yahoo / Alltheweb)
Coxe happens to be a childhood friend of host, Frank Whalen.
“Charles Coxe, Not only is this guy a Senior Editor of Maxim Magazine, Charles is also a childhood friend of Frank’s”…” Charles also moved us all with his heart-breaking eyewitness account of the tragic September 11th terrorist attacks on New York City…”
(Source: franklyspeakingradio.com)
Frank’s original geocities site rates Coxe as a 5, on a scale of 1 to 5, as far as guests are concerned.
(Source)
In Coxe’s August 2004 appearance, Frank Whalen states “…MAXIM has been fantastic, I have always been a fan…” and “…although it is a men’s magazine, you guys have done some fantastic reporting…”
This was rather intriguing, since I had always been under the impression that MAXIM was purely a skin magazine and that Frank focused on exposing truths that mainstream media obfuscated.
For those not familiar with Frank’s show, “Frankly Speaking Radio” airs 6-9 AM on RBN. Among topics discussed are 9/11, Oklahoma City Bombing, media manipulation and the current U.S administration.
Whalen’s broadcast does not appear to serve as a gatekeeper in any respect and, judging from his 2004 appearance, Coxe appears to share the same viewpoints as the host.
During Coxe’s appearance in August 2004, points of discussion included:
• LRADs (Long Range Acoustic Devices) being used for crowd control in New York City
• Frank explaining how Coxe intends to put him in touch with a survivor of the Moscow Theatre attack. Coxe goes on to explain that most of the killing was done by the Russian military, who used chemical weapons on the theatre. Frank points out that this has been featured in an issue of MAXIM.
• Terror alert level disinformation
• 9/11 - Coxe provides a first hand account
• Debunking 9/11 Disinformation
• Mind Control
• Frank Whalen asks Coxe about his forthcomming MAXIM article:
Whalen: “…tell us a little bit about it, is it going to happen? And what are you looking at talking about?
Coxe: “…it is definitely going to happen, the main thing that I want to do though, because we said we haven’t said, OK we’re doing it in a specific month, is, I want to make sure that I take the time to fully research all of this, and that we, you know obviously you know you and I will be working together on this, and really make sure we get our information straight. Because I think a lot of these, you know, for lack of a better term, I know you hate this term, but most people refer to them as conspiracy theories. A lot of them get discredited by people who run too far with them, I think, and that in many ways serves the purposes of the government officials that the theories are trying to discredit. The programs that people are trying to expose…some people take it to an extreme that makes mainstream America dismiss it and say that there’s no way they’re using mind control, but the reality of some of these theories is just as scarey, it’s just that the reality gets dismissed…”
(Source: Coxe’s RBN appearance / hour 3) (note: the above quote was added on 2/19/2006)
• Coxe competently discusses the Gulf of Tonkin incident and the Tuskegee Experiment.
• Mentions that the size of UA93’s debris field is well known
Coxe appears to be very optimistic while highlighting an upcoming MAXIM “Conspiracy Facts” article:
“…the main thing I hope people get out of reading this piece, and we’re talking about, not just your listeners, but everybody out there who buys our magazine, will be that they will start to believe that there is a lot more truth behind these things then they realize. Even if they have dismissed some of these ideas as being too outlandish, they will see [inaudible] the truth that exists behind this is crazier than I ever thought it was.”
• Says to expect his article between February and April 2005.
• Coxe showed interest in writing about HAARP, MKULTRA and RFID
(Source: Coxe’s RBN appearance / hour 4)
While MAXIM’s March 2006 article refers to all 9/11 research as being based in theory, Coxe speaks on the topic with conviction and points out well documented events.
Does Coxe appear to be operating as a gatekeeper? Unfortunately, for those of us who presume he is not, Charles Coxe resigned as Executive Editor of MAXIM on November 4th, 2005. Roughly 3 months prior to the release of MAXIM’s 9/11 article.
Coxe’s co-executive editor James Heidenry, remains with the magazine.
This changing of the guard is reminiscent of the house cleaning that occurred at Popular Mechanics prior to their 9/11 whitewash, appointing Benjamin Chertoff as research editor.
WTF Chuck?
Why did Charles Coxe resign from MAXIM 3 months prior to the release of the March issue?
Could the March 2006 article actually be a distorted revision of Charles Coxe’s original piece which was originally due out in early 2005?
If Charles Coxe remained Executive Editor during production of the 9/11 piece, would it have referred to each exhibit in the article as a “theory” and included references to shape-shifting reptilians? Would it have mentioned remote control planes without referencing Operation Northwoods?
Pictured left: Zach Dundas, author of MAXIM’s March 2006 9/11 article
I am currently attempting to contact both Whalen and Coxe for comments.
-Culhavoc
posted by culhavoc ON 02.18.06 @ 8:05 pm | 0 Comments
MAXIM: 9/11 Conspiracy Theories
MAXIM magazine’s March 2006 issue features an article on 9/11 “Conspiracy Theories”.
Will this be another hitpiece, reminiscent of the Popular Mechanics / Benjamin Chertoff issue?
CONSPIRACY THEORIES
WHAT REALLY BROUGHT DOWN THE TOWERS?
“It’s four and a half years after 9/11, and there’s still much unknown about that day. We examine the theories, from remote–controlled planes to our own government’s intentionally letting it all go down, no matter how absurdly bat–shit crazy they happen to be.”
(Source)
After hearing this news, I ran out of my house and sprinted to my local convenience store to check out this article.
The heading across the top of the cover reads:
9/11 CONSPIRACY THEORIES - STRANGER THAN FICTION
What? “Stranger than fiction”? The truth is stranger than fiction, could this be an article based on 9/11 truths?
Contrary to my original speculation, this did not appear to be a hitpiece, although I was only able to skim the article. The gentleman behind the counter asked me 3 times if I was going to purchase the magazine. I left the house so quickly, I failed to grab my wallet, so I had to regretfully tell him “not right now”.
From what I gathered, the article begins with an interview with Sander Hicks, then moves on to Jimmy Walter. There’s a picture of David Icke at the bottom of one of the pages, although I didn’t get a chance to read what they had to say about him.
For the most part, the article seemed to focus on the collapse of the WTC buildings, although I noticed some of it referred to the Pentagon.
I’ll pick up a copy tomorrow, more to come…
-Culhavoc
UPDATE: I finally picked up a copy of this issue. The article is available HERE.
-Culhavoc
Part II: What the Hell Happened to MAXIM’s Charles Coxe?
posted by culhavoc ON @ 8:24 am | 0 Comments
Today’s Steven Jones BYU Lecture
Feb 16th, 2006
Steven Jones of Scholars for 9/11 Truth will be speaking today at “Life, the Universe & Everything 24: The Marion K. “Doc” Smith Symposium on Science Fiction and Fantasy” 4:00 - 4:50 pm
Dr. Steven Jones: “Challenging Myths about 9/11/2001: How Physics Contradicts the Official Account”
(Source)
posted by culhavoc ON 02.16.06 @ 5:43 pm | 0 Comments
Spitzer blocks top aide from 9/11 Congressional testimony
NYPost
February 15, 2006 — Attorney General Elliot Spitzer personally intervened with a congressional panel to get a top aide out of testifying at an explosive hearing on pre-9/11 intelligence failures, sources told The Post last night.
The House Armed Services Committee had requested testimony of Deputy Attorney General Dietrich Snell — a former top investigator with the 9/11 commission — at a hearing today on “Able Danger,” the secret Pentagon cyber intelligence program that allegedly turned up the name of Mohammed Atta, the mastermind of the atrocity.
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posted by culhavoc ON 02.15.06 @ 11:34 pm | 0 Comments
Interviews: James H. Fetzer of Scholars for 9/11 Truth
Fetzer will be appearing on the following broadcasts:
Wed, Feb 1st: interview with Barbara Jean
(archived interview)
Tues, Feb 14th: TvNewsLIES 11:00 AM - 1:00 PM CST
(archive pending)
Wed, Feb 15th: The Al Uh Looyah Show, 8 - 10 PM CST
(archived interview)
Mon, Feb 20th: interview with Greg Syzmanski & Phil Jayhan
(archived interview)
Thur, Feb 23rd: Coast to Coast AM with George Noory 12:00 AM - 4:00 AM CST
(archived interview)
posted by culhavoc ON 02.14.06 @ 5:31 pm | 0 Comments
Chicago: Thursday, February 16: 9/11 - Search for Justice
Thursday, February 16: 9/11 - Search for Justice
Date: Thursday, February 16
Time: 7:00 p.m.
Place: Fremd High School (Enter from Quentin Road.)
Room: Faculty Study
Map of Fremd High School:
1000 S Quentin Rd
Palatine, IL 60067, US
In support of the national campaign of 911truth.org.
The U.S. has been fighting an undeclared war in Iraq for nearly three years. Osama Bin Laden is still at large. Much of the official 9/11 report remains censored to this day. An Administration that does not trust its citizens expects us to trust their story, however incomplete and inconsistent it may be.
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posted by culhavoc ON 02.13.06 @ 5:32 pm | 0 Comments
“Gas Lines”, “Car Bombs”, and “Overheated Cars that Explode” - Enumerating Erroneous Explosions in Lower Manhattan
Culhavoc
Feb 11th, 2006
This is a partially cumulative follow up to:
Part I: “10-5 the message about the remote controlled plane”!
Part II: Tan Ford Alpha Van at Holland Tunnel Exit
Part III: “Remote Controlled Plane” transmission confirmed as having occurred on 9/11
Part IV: Tan Ford Alpha Van License Plates Resemble a U.S. Government Registered Aircraft
In the hunt for correlating van explosions, wtc-attack-mural-vehicles and vanishing truck-bomb suspects we find that, in addition to the reported explosions at both trade towers, there are reports of many other explosions in lower Manhattan. (note: After reading Killtown’s exclusive interview with Ondrovic and rereading her WTC Task Force interview, I realized that erroneous explosions began earlier than I had originally thought. Thanks to Killtown for publishing his groundbreaking interview.)
9:53-10:03 A.M: EMT Patricia Ondrovic reported 2 to 3 cars exploding 25 to 35 minutes before the second tower “collapse”. Perhaps as early as 9:53 A.M..
“As I was running up Vesey, the first car blew up on me on the corner of Vessey and the West Side Highway. That set my turnout coat on fire, that set my hair on fire, and that set my feet on fire. I kept running. I got news for you, those turn out coats need to be called burn out coats, cause this thing caught up in flames. They cut two inches off my hair in less that two minutes, my coat was completely engulfed, and that was the only way I could see where I was running at that point, because I had a glow from my coat.”
Above: Location of the first car explosion at West Side Hwy and Vesey.
“There’s hundreds of cops all running up there, and I ended up running through this park, and I couldn’t even see where I was running anymore. I kept running North.”
Q: “Through North Park?”
A: “I guess that’s North Park. It’s a big green, grassy area, and there’s nothing there. As I was running up here, two or three more cars exploded on me. They weren’t near any buildings at that point, they were just parked on the street.”
(Source: WTC Task Force interview Page 6)
After reading the above statement I realized that Ondrovic ran through “North Cove”. If one looks at a map of the area and combines the information included in her interview with Killtown, this becomes fairly obvious:
Killtown: “Can you estimate how many vehicles blew up around you?”
Ondrovic: “At least three and some were on fire as I was running by. I was still on the south side of Vesey running west. The burning cars were between my ambulance and about the middle of the 6 World Trade where the lobby doors were at.”
(Source: “9/11 Rescuer Saw Explosions Inside WTC 6 Lobby” an interview with Killtown)
Above: Location of the first reported car explosion (1). Location of the
park where Ondrovic ran to after passing two more exploding cars (2).
North Cove (circled)
“The traffic guys hadn’t gotten a chance to tow anything yet, cause this was all during the first hour I guess of this thing happening. So there were still cars parked on the street that were completely independent of that. Three cars blew up on me, stuff was being thrown. I went home all bruised that day. Thank God it was only bruises. I just ran into this park along with a bunch of other people, and stuff was still blowing up…”
(Source: WTC Task Force interview Page 5-6)
“I remember parts flying off — I think I got hit with a car door. I remember they were also on fire, but I don’t specifically recall the movie type fireball, but there was a loud bang as the door flew off the one car I was running past.”
(Source: “9/11 Rescuer Saw Explosions Inside WTC 6 Lobby” an interview with Killtown)
“I would venture to guess it was 20 minutes to a half our later, and the first thing I remember hearing was somebody saying the North Tower is leaning. Within five minutes of that statement, the second tower came down.”
(Source: WTC Task Force interview Page 12)
(note: The last statement above gave me reason to place the car explosions at approximately 9:53-10:03 A.M.)
One eyewitness reported “explosions going off everywhere” after the first “collapse”.
Teresa Veliz, worked in building 1:
Teresa Veliz was a manager for a software development firm. She was on the 47th floor of the North Tower when American 11 struck(1). Veliz was able to reach the ground level at about the same time that the South Tower collapsed. Flung to the ground in total darkness, Veliz and a colleague followed another person who happened to have a flashlight. As she narrated later: “The flashlight led us into Borders bookstore*, up an escalator, and out to Church Street(2). The explosions were going off everywhere. I was convinced that there were bombs planted all over the place and someone was sitting at a control panel pushing detonator buttons. I was afraid to go down Church Street towards Broadway, but I had to do it. I ended up on Vesey Street(3). There was another explosion. And another. I didn’t know which way to run.”
(Source: “Teresa Veliz: A Prayer to Die Quickly and Painlessly,” in September 11: An Oral History by Dean E. Murphy (Doubleday, 2002), pp 9-15.)
Above: Veliz’ route from WTC1.
8:46 A.M.: Veliz is on the 47th floor of the WTC1 as AA11 strikes the building.(1)
9:59 A.M.: Veliz reaches ground level at about the same time that WTC2 “collapses”.(1)
10:?? A.M.: Veliz emerges from the Borders bookstore* located in WTC5 and hears explosions going off everywhere.(2)
10:?? A.M.: Veliz runs down Church Street towards Broadway and ends up on Vesey Street where she hears 2 more explosions.(3)
10:28 A.M.: WTC1 “collapses”.
What is not exactly clear is whether the explosions Veliz reported were the same explosions reportedly occurring at WTC1 moments before it’s “collapse” or if the explosions were separate incidents altogether. Veliz’s statements that “there were bombs planted all over the place” and “There was another explosion. And another. I didn’t know which way to run.” lead me to believe these explosions took place in multiple locations away from the Trade Center.
We also find explosions taking place in lower Manhattan after the second “collapse”.
10:38 A.M.: 10 minutes after the 2nd “collapse”
Pat Dawson, NBC NEWS reporter:
“…Now we are continuing to hear explosions uhhh, we are continuing to hear explosions here downtown, and what we’ve been told by some of the fire officials is there are some gas lines that occasionally are exploding uhhh down there, because obviously as you could imagine there are a lot of open gas lines down in the southern part of Manhattan where the World Trade Center towers used to be…”
(Source: audio clip / cue to 2:36)
In the following NBC News transcript we learn that bombs were going off as much as an hour after the 2nd “collapse”.
11:30 A.M.: 62 minutes after the 2nd “collapse”
Ashleigh Banfield, MSNBC Reporter:
Banfield: “We just heard one more explosion, that’s about the fifth one we’ve heard. Police are telling us they’re either car bombs or they’re simply cars that have overheated so much they are exploding.”
Officer: “We’re clearing the area for only emergency personnel, either law enforcement or medical”
Banfield: “Do you know anything about those extra explosions we have heard?”
Officer: “No, I do not”
(clearing Banfield and all other media out of the area)
Banfield: “Were they car bombs?”
(Source: Transcript provided by George Trinkaus)
In the above transcript, an NYPD police officer states: “We’re clearing the area for only emergency personnel, either law enforcement or medical”, however the transcripts released by the Port Authority reveal reports that the area was being cleared of everyone, including emergency vehicles. We also find more reports of explosions and gas leaks. I suspect the two are not related.
CPD - Ch . 017 - Radio (Ch . A) - PA Area Wide .wma pg 9
MALE OPERATOR: Command post vehicle on the air! (45 :11)
MALE JERSEY CITY: Jersey City police station, (Inaudible) turnpike . (PAUSE)
MALE TURNPIKE: Go ahead.
MALE JERSEY CITY: (Inaudible) an explosion on (Inaudible), expedite westbound (Inaudible) traffic out of the city right now .
MALE TURNPIKE: Turnpike, received . We are in the process of doing that now .
MALE NEWARK: Newark station from 9-12. (PAUSE)
…..
CPD - Ch . 018 - Radio (Ch. W) LT Police .wma pg.63
MALE B: Be advised, they’ve got (Inaudible), they are turning all vehicles including emergency vehicles away due to a gas leak . (PAUSE)
…..
CPD - Ch. 018 - Radio (Ch . W) LT Police.wma pg.64
MALE B: Are we providing an escort?
MALE C: Report that our maintenance cut down with the equipment, and we couldn’t go any further down because of a gas leak .
MALE B: All right (?) . (02 :47:11) (PAUSE)
…..
WTC CH. 15 - NYC EMS DIRECT LINE pg.13
MALE: This is the colonel(?) . Evacuate all buildings in the complex, you copy me?
All buildings in the complex . (15:5 1)
MALE: (Overlap/Inaudible) . . . gas leak .
MALE: (Overlap/Inaudible) the building . ..
FEMALE: Roger . .. (Overlap/Inaudible)
…..
WTC Ch. 27 - RADIO CHANNEL X - SECURITY pg.11
MALE: Copy. Plaza to six-three what’s . . . what’s the location of that gas leak?
….
Notice there is never any mention of explosions resulting from the gas leaks, only that they are a threat and that everyone, including emergency vehicles, should evacuate the area.
The WTC Task Force interviews reveal numerous other reports of gas leaks, in which one FDNY firefigther refers to as “bullshit”. Key highlights are as follows:
V. Massa
“…There were reports coming over the radio that there was a secondary device in Stuyvesant High School, that there was major gas leak and to evacuate the area. Everybody turned around and started heading north again. We were like, Jesus Christ, what the hell is next? Everybody was shell-shocked. We figured this building is going to explode now, you know…”
“…We stood there for a minute or two and we were like — I don’t know, this is bullshit, and let’s start heading back in…”
(Source: WTC Task Force Interview with V. Massa)
…..
D. Rivera
“…I Pretty much went back to this original spot here at
Church and Trinity, I think. Then they directed
us somewhere else around here.
Q: Who directed you? A supervisor?
A: Right, some supervisor.
Q: Do you know where you ended up?
A: By the water somewhere around here.
Q: By battery park?
A: Right, somewhere around here somewhere. Then they said that there was gas leak and that was too dangerous so we walked from — we were here somewhere. Then they took us all the way to — not Chambers. What’s that place on the west side. Pier 94.
Q: That’s where you ended up after all
that stuff?
A: After all that.
Q: So you ended up at pier 94?
A: Right…”
(Source: WTC Task Force Interview with D. Rivera)
…..
M. Schroeck
“…Right around here the boat was, right. It was right against the winter garden we tried to stretch — get line in place into the Winter Garden there. But think they were talking about I guess an odor, gas odor…”
(Source: WTC Task Force Interview with M. Schroek)
…..
D. Coutsouros
“…We came down East End. Actually we put a fire out in a building that’s right there. We went through here. There was fire building. We started stretching all the lengths that the fireboat had through guess its the Merrill Lynch building…”
“…Over here there was gas leak. The police department was telling everybody to get out of the area blah blah blah…” “…We went over — I guess 4 World Financial, Merrill Lynch, is Vesey and North End that corner building. We went down this street, which isn’t marked here whatever it is…”
(Source: WTC Task Force Interview with D. Coutsouros)
…..
G. Smiley
“…At that point Chief Goldfarb said that he smelled gas. Nobody smelled gas except Chief Goldfarb. Chief Goldfarb smelling gas saved about 40 people because we moved through the back lobby and out the side entrance on to the farther end of Vesey Street going towards North End Avenue…” “…They had set up field hospital in don’t know what building. They dragged us in there for while then there was report of gas leak in there so decided it would be better if exit…”
“…We were going to go into the water. I said maybe we should take off our stuff and go into the ocean. We didn’t know where else to go because there was every building was apparently — the police said there was gas leaks and they said they were going to blowup and we had no place else to go…”
(Source: WTC Task Force Interview with G. Smiley)
…..
M. Rodriguez
“…When we finished with the fireman we were around Barclay or Murray they might have made us move back there was a gas scare I don’t remember the time frame but everybody started saying keep your ambulances away from manhole covers and sewers somebody yelled “everybody run for lives there’s a gas main leak there might be an explosion” I got separated from my partner because everybody was running. An ambulance went by with broken windows and the back doors open. I Jumped in the back of that ambulance we ended up going by the Chelsea Piers. I really don’t remember if that was when the second one came down because to be honest with you it was so chaotic. I Just remember little bits and pieces of that day…”
(Source: WTC Task Force Interview with M. Rodriguez)
…..
S. Holowatch
“…they kept on pushing us north because they thought there was a gas leak and a bomb in the American Express building. They
kept on moving us north of the high school there.
Q. Stuyvesant High School?
A. Yes, Stuyvesant High School, until they figured out, I guess, there was no gas leak or no secondary bomb…”
(Source: S. Holowatch WTC Task Force Interview Page 8-9)
…..
In addition to the gas leaks reported above, it is well documented that shortly after 8.30 A.M., minutes before AA11 hit WTC1., one of the Naudet brothers responded to a call with Chief Joseph Pfeifer of an alleged gas leak at Church & Lispenard Street. This placed them in a perfect location to film the impact of AA11.
Suspects Arrested in Exploding-Mural-Van incident:
This brings us to one of the most interesting bits of information I’ve encountered in the area of research initially detailed in my piece entitled “10-5 the message about the remote controlled plane!“, and later confirmed to have taken place on 9/11 in my piece ““Remote Controlled Plane” transmission confirmed as having occurred on 9/11.” (note: I am fully convinced this is also related to “Tan Ford Alpha Van at Holland Tunnel Exit“)
If you remember, this article includes an audio transmission and transcript which details two suspects arrested for detonating a van loaded with explosives in lower Manhattan. In addition, this van was reportedly painted with a mural of a remote controlled plane, loaded with explosives, diving into New York City.
Begin Transcript (audio found here):
officer: The plane [inaudible] in the air… explosives on King and 6th Avenue.
officer: King and 6th Avenue you say?
officer: We need to pull the truck [inaudible] one of those remote controlled planes filled with explosives
officer: [inaudible]
officer: [inaudible] and Broadway
officer:10-5 that plane
officer: Chambers and Broadway
officer: 10-5 that plane message
officer: 77CO inspector Morino
officer: Inspector Morino go ahead
officer: Thank you
officer: [inaudible]
officer: 5 the message about the plane
officer: Sergeant [inaudible] seven five (Miller?)
officer: 5 [inaudible] about the, 10-5 the message about the plane
officer: 9414 hold up
officer: 5 the message about the remote-control plane
officer: [inaudible] on the air
officer: [inaudible]
officer: [inaudible]
officer: [inaudible] Trinity and Liberty… all city wide task force units are to respond to Liberty Trinity Place
officer: 10-4 the message is the plane [inaudible]
officer: [inaudible] task forces
c/o: [inaudible] and [inaudible] will be the mobilization point at this time [inaudible]
officer: 10-4 c/o central who is [inaudible]
officer: didn’t find any mention about the plane (alt: didn’t find any admission about the plane)
officer: central, we need the bomb squad and EAQ over at King and……background noise….click
officer: [inaudible]
officer: [inaudible] units
officer: [inaudible] on the air
officer: 9415 you on?
officer: 85[inaudible] this is uhh operator
officer: [inaudible]
officer: negat[inaudible]
officer: [inaudible] giving up these [inaudible] (planes?)
officer: [inaudible] I got a message on that uh plane,
it’s a big truck with a mural painted of a of a airplane diving into New York City
and exploding [inaudible] know what’s in the truck, the truck is in between 6th and 7th on King Street
officer: [inaudible]
officer: [inaudible]
officer: [inaudible]
officer: [inaudible] 10-5 10-5
officer: with a mural painted uh airplane diving into New York blowing up. Two men got outta the truck
ran away from it, we got those two [inaudible] under.
officer: kay great.
officer: [inaudible]
officer: [inaudible] are you holding those to guys [inaudible] (kay?)
multiple voices/commotion: [inaudible] fucking beat the shit out of him.
officer: [gasps]
multiple voices/commotion: [inaudible] fucking shit out of him [inaudible]
officer: all right listen you need any [inaudible] on those two guys over there? you all right over there kay?
officer: we got both suspects under kay, we have the suspects who drive…drove in the van and that exploded
we have both of them under kay let’s get some help over here
officer: now I’m sending you [inaudible] I just want to make sure you and your guys all right over there kay, that’s all.
officer: what’s the location [inaudible]
officer: put em up, put em up
officer: you know we have both the [inaudible] driven that exploded. Is that correct?
officer: what location?
officer: location [inaudible]
officer: [inaudible]
officer: [inaudible] location [inaudible]
officer: King Street between 6th and 7th
officer: King Street and 6th and 7th avenue, King Street and 6th and 7th avenue
officer: [inaudible] on the scene King 6 and 7, which unit are you kay?
officer: [inaudible]
officer: [inaudible]
officer: [inaudible] explosion
officer: which unit is on the scene at king street?
officer: truck to Manhattan
officer: [inaudible] 10 truck
officer: [inaudible] 10 truck is heading a team toward 14 Trinity Place
officer: all right you take care of that for me and get back to me
multiple voices: [inaudible]
officer: all right just check out that location let me know what you got
officer: [inaudible]4
officer: [inaudible] on the air
officer: on the air
officer: [inaudible]
officer: that fine with you?
officer: CIT Units on the air, CIT
officer: [inaudible] always available [inaudible] we’re talkin
End transcript.
I am currently attempting to place a time on the above transmission. Anyone wishing to contribute any information regarding the above is encouraged to email me at this address.
Speculative questions:
• Were the car/van bomb explosions meant to clear the area in an attempt to drive away any potential witnesses, including media shooting video coverage in the area surrounding WTC?
• Were the gas leak threats concocted to provide cover for the car bombs?
-Culhavoc
posted by culhavoc ON 02.12.06 @ 12:49 am | 0 Comments
9/11 Rescuer Saw Explosions Inside WTC 6 Lobby
In an exclusive Killtown interview, Ground Zero EMT Patricia Ondrovic talks about her harrowing day at the WTC on 9/11. Within minutes after the South Tower collapses, she witnessed the WTC 5 blowing up, cars exploding, and explosions inside the lobby of the WTC 6, all the while narrowly escaping with her own life.
Read this ground breaking article at Killtown’s blog
posted by culhavoc ON 02.11.06 @ 1:47 pm | 0 Comments
Feb 9th, 2006 Cynthia McKinney Interview
Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney interviewed by Alex Jones
Audio: 32k mp3 link
also see…
Transcript & Video: Rep. McKinney Questioning of General Myers, Sec. Rumsfeld and DoD Comptroller, Tina Jones
posted by culhavoc ON 02.09.06 @ 9:50 pm | 0 Comments
Tan Ford Alpha Van License Plates Resemble a U.S. Government Registered Aircraft
An update to “10-5 the message about the remote controlled plane”
I received a lot of email regarding the potential existance of a paper trail related to the arrests of the two suspects in the exploding-mural-van event, located in an NYPD radio transmission from 9/11.
Although I’ve looked in to this question to no avail, this presented another question of whether or not there were additional paper trails associated with this compartment of the operation.
In my piece entitled “Tan Ford Alpha Van at Holland Tunnel Exit”, I dissect an NYPD transmission in which the following statement is made:
MALE C : (Inaudible) from the Holland Tunnel exit, a tan Ford alpha van . New York tags . delta (Inaudible), November 8970 . (N8970)
If you’ve read the piece you’ll know that I speculate that this is the same van that appeared at King St. between 6th and 7th avenue and allegedly exploded.
What’s interesting about this license plate number, less the delta, is what follows, N8970, which also represents a registered tail number for a government owned 1956 Corvair, fixed-wing, single engine aircraft. Perhaps, yet another paper trail.
-Culhavoc
posted by culhavoc ON 02.08.06 @ 3:35 am | 0 Comments
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